Well, there were a few different moments. I remember being in my band just post college and making a little name for ourselves down South, and because I’d never experienced any kind of recognition before, that felt like, Wow, we’re fuckin’ famous. And then later on, when Ben Folds Five started really making a buzz, and it was pretty quick; we got from where we weren’t [famous] to where we were really fast. I remember being pushed through Brownie’s, this East Village quasi-punk-rock club in New York, when a little bit of the mania part of a career had begun. Even though we didn’t have a big record yet, it just felt like it was all happening; I remember there were two dudes on either side of me pushing through the crowd, it was nutty. The next time I remember it being obvious was in Australia with Ben Folds Five, probably at the beginning of the Whatever and Ever Amen phase; ‘Brick’ was just becoming a hit there, and I remember being in the middle of the street outside after a show, being just packed in, signing [autographs], and realizing I had to take a deep breath and sign my way out of it. I remember thinking it was scary and bizarre, and I was kinda not in a great place then anyway, thinking, God, this is fucking weird. Just being so closed in that it was like being in the middle of a packed train, just physically not being able to get out. I just left and was like, Holy shit.